tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post5623304172954374925..comments2024-02-04T16:46:03.204-08:00Comments on Radical Neurodivergence Speaking: On The Dialogues & The Accompanying TwitterGateNeurodivergent Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02815685510033244185noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-73861309932088864432011-10-11T11:07:02.235-07:002011-10-11T11:07:02.235-07:00So I only let that through as an example of the as...So I only let that through as an example of the asshattery and bullshittery that I really hate.<br /><br />Don't come here and post your godsdamned advertisements.Especially your advertisements for godsdamned offensive puzzle piece crap that implies that all autistic people are children. ESPECIALLY especially when I blog about how awareness is bullshit. <br /><br />Sweet Raptor Jeebus, can people not READ?Neurodivergent Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02815685510033244185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-30031555822509479622011-10-11T10:57:23.292-07:002011-10-11T10:57:23.292-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alex Quinn 82https://www.blogger.com/profile/00554923563142585180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-44345871124442745502011-09-27T07:54:15.152-07:002011-09-27T07:54:15.152-07:00Hi K,
I was going to post another comment, but it...Hi K,<br /><br />I was going to post another comment, but it got too long and now appears as a post on my blog. Feel free to come over and comment if you have the time.<br /><br />Rachel<br />www.journeyswithautism.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-75523034643268881632011-09-25T21:22:45.030-07:002011-09-25T21:22:45.030-07:00Thank you Kassiane. I really appreciate this post....Thank you Kassiane. I really appreciate this post.Jen Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17178547646207135454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-80185656359835892232011-09-25T13:50:24.175-07:002011-09-25T13:50:24.175-07:00Kassiane, continuing to learn oh hell a whole lot ...Kassiane, continuing to learn oh hell a whole lot from you, thank you.Shannon Des Roches Rosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18057806553670980068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-22668363826034543892011-09-25T12:35:36.688-07:002011-09-25T12:35:36.688-07:00I think if TPGA hosts further discourse and wants ...I think if TPGA hosts further discourse and wants to ensure the appearance of neutrality (without which I don't feel these dialogues can be successful), they do need ground rules for editors in terms of publicly engaging with participants in conversations about the dialogue, outside of the dialogue. I think for everyone's benefit, this would help avoid (unnecessarily) messy situations like this one.Caitlin Wrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683662224096157734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-43492044801026307792011-09-25T12:09:33.847-07:002011-09-25T12:09:33.847-07:00Great post.
I think that part of the problem her...Great post. <br /><br />I think that part of the problem here is the medium. Twitter is not particularly conducive to nuance or complexity of either thought or tone. So there is nowhere to explain your thought process, what you mean, what you don't mean, and so on. There is no way to even make your tone particularly clear. Misinterpretations are inevitable. So Twitter is probably not a good choice for carrying on discussions regarding issues facing autistic people, where the problems are complex and the pain goes very deep. And of course, in such a terse medium, trying to have a dialogue about having a dialogue probably shouldn't happen again. :-) <br /><br />If these discussions do end up being carried on Twitter, it's probably a good idea to ask for clarification before drawing conclusions, because the problem (as in this case) could very well arise from the necessity of communicating one's intent in a very few words, rather than from the intent itself. <br /><br />I am both autistic and a parent, and when I read the Twitter exchange, I came away with a completely different interpretation from the one that most people seemed to have -- and it was very close to what, as it turns out, Emily actually meant. I think it's because I tend to do a lot of reflective listening in my every day interactions, in which I reflect back to people who might be upset/angry/in pain what I understand them to be feeling. To an outside observer, it might look like I'm actually agreeing with everything the person says, but I'm not. I'm just trying to acknowledge the person's sense of their own experience so that they can open up to dialogue. I think that's akin to what Emily was attempting to do, and why I interpreted the exchange as I did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2147438406266555027.post-46857643469836515222011-09-25T11:07:50.863-07:002011-09-25T11:07:50.863-07:00"When you are autistic or otherwise disabled,..."When you are autistic or otherwise disabled, you know every day that people aren't listening to you, and certainly aren't trying to understand you. They are often coming up with reasons to not have to listen to you. We've been over all this before-silencing tactics, Not Like My Child, Argument from Tone, Parenting Is Hard, etc. It's significant. There aren't enough squares in a Bingo card, and it stops being funny when you get a blackout on 3 different cards in under 5 minutes anyway. <br /><br />And I expect variants on 'I don't have to listen to you! You can tie your shoes/you're a girl/you're a Scorpio/whatever' from a whole lot of people. It's a pattern."<br /><br />K...all of the above is very, very useful to me. Thanks for describing and summarizing it so clearly. The way you've put it--just as you've put it--lays it out in a way that cannot be misunderstood or dismissed. I think that exactly your words should be posted all over the blogosphere. <br /><br />Had I had any of this in mind when posting on that Twitter feed--had I even had in mind a broader perspective instead of just focusing on encouragement--I'd have made it more clear which group I was thinking about at the time, which was *not* autistic people.EJ Willinghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07333507287598525182noreply@blogger.com